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1Mr Kernan was silent. The proposal conveyed very little meaning to his mind but, understanding that some spiritual
2agencies were about to concern themselves on his behalf, he thought he owed it to his dignity to show a stiff neck. He
3took no part in the conversation for a long while but listened, with an air of calm enmity, while his friends discussed
4the Jesuits. "I haven't such a bad opinion of the Jesuits," he said, intervening at length. "They're an educated order.
5I believe they mean well too." "They're the grandest order in the Church, Tom," said Mr Cunningham, with enthusiasm.
6"The General of the Jesuits stands next to the Pope." "There's no mistake about it," said Mr M'Coy, "if you want a thing
7well done and no flies about it you go to a Jesuit. They're the boyos have influence. I'll tell you a case in point...."
8"The Jesuits are a fine body of men," said Mr Power. "It's a curious thing," said Mr Cunningham, "about the Jesuit
9Order. Every other order of the Church had to be reformed at some time or other but the Jesuit Order was never once
10reformed. It never fell away." "Is that so?" asked Mr M'Coy. "That's a fact," said Mr Cunningham. "That's history."
11"Look at their church, too," said Mr Power. "Look at the congregation they have." "The Jesuits cater for the upper
12classes," said Mr M'Coy. "Of course," said Mr Power. "Yes," said Mr Kernan. "That's why I have a feeling for them. It's
13some of those secular priests, ignorant, bumptious----" "They're all good men," said Mr Cunningham, "each in his own
14way. The Irish priesthood is honoured all the world over." "O yes," said Mr Power. "Not like some of the other
15priesthoods on the continent," said Mr M'Coy, "unworthy of the name." "Perhaps you're right," said Mr Kernan, relenting.
16"Of course I'm right," said Mr Cunningham. "I haven't been in the world all this time and seen most sides of it without
17being a judge of character." The gentlemen drank again, one following another's example. Mr Kernan seemed to be weighing
18something in his mind. He was impressed. He had a high opinion of Mr Cunningham as a judge of character and as a reader
19of faces. He asked for particulars. "O, it's just a retreat, you know," said Mr Cunningham. "Father Purdon is giving it.
20It's for business men, you know." "He won't be too hard on us, Tom," said Mr Power persuasively. "Father Purdon? Father
21Purdon?" said the invalid. "O, you must know him, Tom," said Mr Cunningham stoutly. "Fine jolly fellow! He's a man of
22the world like ourselves." "Ah, ... yes. I think I know him. Rather red face; tall." "That's the man." "And tell me,
23Martin.... Is he a good preacher?" "Munno.... It's not exactly a sermon, you know. It's just kind of a friendly talk,
24you know, in a common-sense way." Mr Kernan deliberated. Mr M'Coy said: "Father Tom Burke, that was the boy!" "O, Father
25Tom Burke," said Mr Cunningham, "that was a born orator. Did you ever hear him, Tom?" "Did I ever hear him!" said the
26invalid, nettled. "Rather! I heard him...." "And yet they say he wasn't much of a theologian," said Mr Cunningham. "Is
27that so?" said Mr M'Coy. "O, of course, nothing wrong, you know. Only sometimes, they say, he didn't preach what was
28quite orthodox." "Ah! ... he was a splendid man," said Mr M'Coy. "I heard him once," Mr Kernan continued. "I forget the
29subject of his discourse now. Crofton and I were in the back of the ... pit, you know ... the----" "The body," said Mr
30Cunningham. "Yes, in the back near the door. I forget now what.... O yes, it was on the Pope, the late Pope. I remember
31it well. Upon my word it was magnificent, the style of the oratory. And his voice! God! hadn't he a voice! The Prisoner
32of the Vatican, he called him. I remember Crofton saying to me when we came out----" "But he's an Orangeman, Crofton,
33isn't he?" said Mr Power. "'Course he is," said Mr Kernan, "and a damned decent Orangeman too. We went into Butler's in
34Moore Street--faith, I was genuinely moved, tell you the God's truth--and I remember well his very words. Kernan, he
35said, we worship at different altars, he said, but our belief is the same. Struck me as very well put." "There's a good
36deal in that," said Mr Power. "There used always to be crowds of Protestants in the chapel where Father Tom was
37preaching." "There's not much difference between us," said Mr M'Coy. "We both believe in----" He hesitated for a moment.
38"... in the Redeemer. Only they don't believe in the Pope and in the mother of God." "But, of course," said Mr
39Cunningham quietly and effectively, "our religion is the religion, the old, original faith." "Not a doubt of it," said
40Mr Kernan warmly. Mrs Kernan came to the door of the bedroom and announced: "Here's a visitor for you!" "Who is it?" "Mr
41Fogarty." "O, come in! come in!" A pale oval face came forward into the light. The arch of its fair trailing moustache
42was repeated in the fair eyebrows looped above pleasantly astonished eyes. Mr Fogarty was a modest grocer. He had failed
43in business in a licensed house in the city because his financial condition had constrained him to tie himself to
44second-class distillers and brewers. He had opened a small shop on Glasnevin Road where, he flattered himself, his
45manners would ingratiate him with the housewives of the district. He bore himself with a certain grace, complimented
46little children and spoke with a neat enunciation. He was not without culture. Mr Fogarty brought a gift with him, a
47half-pint of special whisky. He inquired politely for Mr Kernan, placed his gift on the table and sat down with the
48company on equal terms. Mr Kernan appreciated the gift all the more since he was aware that there was a small account
49for groceries unsettled between him and Mr Fogarty. He said: "I wouldn't doubt you, old man. Open that, Jack, will you?"
50Mr Power again officiated. Glasses were rinsed and five small measures of whisky were poured out. This new influence
51enlivened the conversation. Mr Fogarty, sitting on a small area of the chair, was specially interested. "Pope Leo
52XIII.," said Mr Cunningham, "was one of the lights of the age. His great idea, you know, was the union of the Latin and
53Greek Churches. That was the aim of his life." "I often heard he was one of the most intellectual men in Europe," said
54Mr Power. "I mean, apart from his being Pope." "So he was," said Mr Cunningham, "if not the most so. His motto, you
55know, as Pope, was Lux upon Lux--Light upon Light." "No, no," said Mr Fogarty eagerly. "I think you're wrong there. It
56was Lux in Tenebris, I think--Light in Darkness." "O yes," said Mr M'Coy, "Tenebrae." "Allow me," said Mr Cunningham
57positively, "it was Lux upon Lux. And Pius IX. his predecessor's motto was Crux upon Crux--that is, Cross upon Cross--to
58show the difference between their two pontificates." The inference was allowed. Mr Cunningham continued. "Pope Leo, you
59know, was a great scholar and a poet." "He had a strong face," said Mr Kernan. "Yes," said Mr Cunningham. "He wrote
60Latin poetry." "Is that so?" said Mr Fogarty. Mr M'Coy tasted his whisky contentedly and shook his head with a double
61intention, saying: "That's no joke, I can tell you." "We didn't learn that, Tom," said Mr Power, following Mr M'Coy's
62example, "when we went to the penny-a-week school." "There was many a good man went to the penny-a-week school with a
63sod of turf under his oxter," said Mr Kernan sententiously. "The old system was the best: plain honest education. None
64of your modern trumpery...." "Quite right," said Mr Power. "No superfluities," said Mr Fogarty. He enunciated the word
65and then drank gravely. "I remember reading," said Mr Cunningham, "that one of Pope Leo's poems was on the invention of
66the photograph--in Latin, of course." "On the photograph!" exclaimed Mr Kernan. "Yes," said Mr Cunningham. He also drank
67from his glass. "Well, you know," said Mr M'Coy, "isn't the photograph wonderful when you come to think of it?" "O, of
68course," said Mr Power, "great minds can see things." "As the poet says: Great minds are very near to madness," said Mr
69Fogarty. Mr Kernan seemed to be troubled in mind. He made an effort to recall the Protestant theology on some thorny
70points and in the end addressed Mr Cunningham. "Tell me, Martin," he said. "Weren't some of the popes--of course, not
71our present man, or his predecessor, but some of the old popes--not exactly ... you know ... up to the knocker?" There
72was a silence. Mr Cunningham said:
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